Jordan Spurgeon and Jon Wilner had a lengthy college football conversation.
They discussed the lack of elite teams in college football, Demond Williams Jr. at Washington, Indiana being great, the Penn State job, and so much more.
Plus they dove into the state of ASU and Arizona Wildcats football.
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